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2010.01.18
Greetings!
here is an update to a haXe(flash) prototype of SimBrothel v2:
2010.01.18___hxSBv2.7zip
would appreciate any comments you might have about this prototype.
note that this prototype still has 5 (at least) major problems/issues:
1) no Save/Load game capability
2) best played with a maximally sized window. GUI components may be left off of smaller sized windows.
3) the aspect ratio of some of the images is, well, warped by this software and so look really goofy.
4) many text data entry fields may be difficult if not impossible to actually enter any text. (I am having difficulty duplicating this problem. perhaps I did something somehow somewhere to fix it, doubtful. please let me know if you have any issues with the text data entry GUI components).
5) when viewing the Girls as a Table and sorting that tabular presentation by one of its columns and then selecting a Girl's row will display that girl and upon returning back to the tabular presentation any girl that you move the mouse over will be immediately displayed. can be VERY frustrating. either disable the sorting by carefully moving the mouse (avoiding any of the girl's rows) to the column and click to disable/change the sort or simply close the tabular presentation and re-open the Girls view.
Thank you for your time
---fud
here is an update to a haXe(flash) prototype of SimBrothel v2:
2010.01.18___hxSBv2.7zip
would appreciate any comments you might have about this prototype.
note that this prototype still has 5 (at least) major problems/issues:
1) no Save/Load game capability
2) best played with a maximally sized window. GUI components may be left off of smaller sized windows.
3) the aspect ratio of some of the images is, well, warped by this software and so look really goofy.
4) many text data entry fields may be difficult if not impossible to actually enter any text. (I am having difficulty duplicating this problem. perhaps I did something somehow somewhere to fix it, doubtful. please let me know if you have any issues with the text data entry GUI components).
5) when viewing the Girls as a Table and sorting that tabular presentation by one of its columns and then selecting a Girl's row will display that girl and upon returning back to the tabular presentation any girl that you move the mouse over will be immediately displayed. can be VERY frustrating. either disable the sorting by carefully moving the mouse (avoiding any of the girl's rows) to the column and click to disable/change the sort or simply close the tabular presentation and re-open the Girls view.
Thank you for your time
---fud
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Re: 2010.01.18
for the hell of it i made a custome game and picked nephenne, yet she refused all customers, is this normal?
otherwise i really like great job. (ill post more later as i play.)
otherwise i really like great job. (ill post more later as i play.)
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Re: 2010.01.18
Generally, it takes a few days before any girl will start to work. This time depends on her initial stats and the stats and style of where she is working.
I started a game with just Nephenne in the Old Shack and set the Style to Big Boobs. Now also for the Old Shack one must advertise a bit at first in order to attract customers, so I set an initial Old Shack advertising cost of 15.
Nobody visited the Old Shack for the first 2 days. And on day 3 several customers appeared (forget how many) and she service 1 of them.
Did you give her a few days to get into her groove?
Thanks for taking the time to look at this game.
I started a game with just Nephenne in the Old Shack and set the Style to Big Boobs. Now also for the Old Shack one must advertise a bit at first in order to attract customers, so I set an initial Old Shack advertising cost of 15.
Nobody visited the Old Shack for the first 2 days. And on day 3 several customers appeared (forget how many) and she service 1 of them.
Did you give her a few days to get into her groove?
Thanks for taking the time to look at this game.
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Re: 2010.01.18
not yet all i did was start on the central palace and put advertising people came, but she refused. ill be sure to give her more time later, nice work so fare like the lay out.
and whats with the drastic change in stats when you steal? (i was trying it out) brings the main girls obedience and constitution to 0? is the idea she no longer works? a permanent thief?
and whats with the drastic change in stats when you steal? (i was trying it out) brings the main girls obedience and constitution to 0? is the idea she no longer works? a permanent thief?
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Re: 2010.01.18
The gist of what you changed would be appreciated. I haven't looked, so if it's blatantly obvious, please forgive me.
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Well there were quite a few changes, mostly suggested by you.
1) About Screen: url updated to point to this forum and *should* be navigable and/or copyable -- hard for me to test in my environment....
2) Gallery Mode has only the option to view as table, removed other buttons.
3) Loan menu removed. Now have a Loan button on the main game screen. Loan buttion consumes a day.
4) On main game screen there is now just 1 button to launch the Girl Browser and you select between Owned, Buy, and Slave Market from there.
5) On main game screen there is now just 1 button to launch the Building Browser. You always see tabs for all buildings in the game. You buy/sell/manage by selecting the desired tab.
6) the Girl's tooltip text (the yellow popup text) no longer uses the word "item"
7) the Preferences panel now allows for Weekly and Monthly frequency selections.
8) The Preferences panel provides a flag for "Debug Mode" which (at the moment only) enables/disables the All button in the Girl Browser.
9) Added ability to advance multiple days via the Preferences panel.
10) Added hooks for logging a History of game actions -- just a menu item for now.
11) Use the headshot 80x80 images for each Girl's icon that were posted in the old forum --- missing Blue.
12) On the main game panel, the tooltip (the popup yellow text) for Loan, Walk, and Next Day tries to be more clear that those functions will advance the day (or many days as governed by Preferences). I am thinking about moving the Load, Walk, and Next buttons to be at the bottom of the screen in order to emphasize that they do something rather different than the other buttons.
13) Tried, but failed miserably, to make the daily random joker not happen so often.
14) fixed a Null Pointer Exception for when we Walk and the Girls work but there is no Boss in a Building, I think there may be more of these....
i am sure i have forgotten something important....
1) About Screen: url updated to point to this forum and *should* be navigable and/or copyable -- hard for me to test in my environment....
2) Gallery Mode has only the option to view as table, removed other buttons.
3) Loan menu removed. Now have a Loan button on the main game screen. Loan buttion consumes a day.
4) On main game screen there is now just 1 button to launch the Girl Browser and you select between Owned, Buy, and Slave Market from there.
5) On main game screen there is now just 1 button to launch the Building Browser. You always see tabs for all buildings in the game. You buy/sell/manage by selecting the desired tab.
6) the Girl's tooltip text (the yellow popup text) no longer uses the word "item"
7) the Preferences panel now allows for Weekly and Monthly frequency selections.
8) The Preferences panel provides a flag for "Debug Mode" which (at the moment only) enables/disables the All button in the Girl Browser.
9) Added ability to advance multiple days via the Preferences panel.
10) Added hooks for logging a History of game actions -- just a menu item for now.
11) Use the headshot 80x80 images for each Girl's icon that were posted in the old forum --- missing Blue.
12) On the main game panel, the tooltip (the popup yellow text) for Loan, Walk, and Next Day tries to be more clear that those functions will advance the day (or many days as governed by Preferences). I am thinking about moving the Load, Walk, and Next buttons to be at the bottom of the screen in order to emphasize that they do something rather different than the other buttons.
13) Tried, but failed miserably, to make the daily random joker not happen so often.
14) fixed a Null Pointer Exception for when we Walk and the Girls work but there is no Boss in a Building, I think there may be more of these....
i am sure i have forgotten something important....
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Bugs
I have found minor 2 bugs so far: when you advance to the next day most of the girls individual pictures get deformed because of the forced measurements. However, you fixed this in the 'Buy' and 'Slaves' department so i'm sure this will not prove to be that big of a problem.
Also, when you take a walk for Matsumoto at the end it doesn't show '(Get Rangiku)' like it should, it just goes on to the next day and you have Matsumoto in your list, but without announcement like with the other girls you can get that way.
Anyway, good job with the icons, they really give a nice touch to the game. Keep up the good work!
Also, when you take a walk for Matsumoto at the end it doesn't show '(Get Rangiku)' like it should, it just goes on to the next day and you have Matsumoto in your list, but without announcement like with the other girls you can get that way.
Anyway, good job with the icons, they really give a nice touch to the game. Keep up the good work!
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Re: 2010.01.18
i found that the goddess style dose not seem to work, since i had skuld in old shack, and turned on style no effect. (well i had less then 40 customers with is the reverse of what its ment to do.)
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Re: 2010.01.18
Rapidshare has been giving a lot of people a hard time recently. It'd be much appreciated to get the uploads to another site, such as 4Shared, or MediaFire.
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Re: 2010.01.18
http://www.mediafire.com/?tztmdtxkygd
i tryed to upload it to mediafire not sure if it works or if this is the right file if its not sorry.
i tryed to upload it to mediafire not sure if it works or if this is the right file if its not sorry.
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Re: 2010.01.18
That's .14, I'm looking for .18, but thank you for trying to help. [=
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yea i have the .18 one, it was in another section of my pc, im uploading it now, ill edit this post when it is done.
http://www.mediafire.com/?ttnzf5ztrly
http://www.mediafire.com/?ttnzf5ztrly
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Re: 2010.01.18
Thanks.
The link looks as if it should be clickable, but it doesn't work, and the Main Screen, the one that shows up as soon as you start the game, is disproportional to the image space above it. The text space is really large and there isn't enough room for images.
Also, I think that the Group>Skill shouldn't exist. Or maybe limit to ones you have. Otherwise there's too many.
The link looks as if it should be clickable, but it doesn't work, and the Main Screen, the one that shows up as soon as you start the game, is disproportional to the image space above it. The text space is really large and there isn't enough room for images.
Also, I think that the Group>Skill shouldn't exist. Or maybe limit to ones you have. Otherwise there's too many.
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Re: 2010.01.18
Raed wrote:The link looks as if it should be clickable, but it doesn't work,
Do you mean the url on the About panel?
Raed wrote:and the Main Screen, the one that shows up as soon as you start the game, is disproportional to the image space above it. The text space is really large and there isn't enough room for images.
what images do you expect to see on this panel?
this panel presents a textual summary of the prior day(s) results and so may display alot of text, but probably only if you have chosen to advance in large intervals of days via the Preferences.
Raed wrote:Also, I think that the Group>Skill shouldn't exist. Or maybe limit to ones you have. Otherwise there's too many.
Huh? too many skills? how to limit skills to ones you have?
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you seem to have an idea of how the game should operate. could you please articulate that idea so that maybe we could move forward on developing the new version of the game....
Thanks
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Re: 2010.01.18
1. Yes, but you can still right-click and copy location.
2. Maybe a map, maybe a random image, or something pertaining to an event that went on that day, Like showing a building on fire for that event. The text would be better off in a box maybe half the size, scrollable if need be. It makes the game seem text based with so much space for it. Kinda hard to explain..
3. The "Group By:" in the girls list and galleries. It groups girls together by Leadership abilities. It's ineffective considering most girls have different ones. Occasionally you'll have something like Obedience up which has 5 people, but most others are groups of one. I meant limiting to ones you have in that, if you have a girl that has obedience up, you can organize by obedience up, but if you don't own any girls with it, the option isn't displayed.
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4. This is all completely sporadic. I have a general idea, but alasdair is working on the specifics, and he says he's almost done, so please bare with it a little longer.
2. Maybe a map, maybe a random image, or something pertaining to an event that went on that day, Like showing a building on fire for that event. The text would be better off in a box maybe half the size, scrollable if need be. It makes the game seem text based with so much space for it. Kinda hard to explain..
3. The "Group By:" in the girls list and galleries. It groups girls together by Leadership abilities. It's ineffective considering most girls have different ones. Occasionally you'll have something like Obedience up which has 5 people, but most others are groups of one. I meant limiting to ones you have in that, if you have a girl that has obedience up, you can organize by obedience up, but if you don't own any girls with it, the option isn't displayed.
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4. This is all completely sporadic. I have a general idea, but alasdair is working on the specifics, and he says he's almost done, so please bare with it a little longer.
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Re: 2010.01.18
Raed wrote:Also, I think that the Group>Skill shouldn't exist. Or maybe limit to ones you have. Otherwise there's too many.
Sorry, my bad.
You obviously typed the word "Skill" but my poor ancient brain interpreted it as "Style". So my first reply was not valid (perhaps even demented....)
Your comments about Group>Skill are spot on.
Hopefully we can straighten them out once we have a better idea of where the game is heading (or maybe get rid of them altogether...)
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Re: 2010.01.18
any plan on when another version will come out?
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Re: 2010.01.18
I am not sure there would be any reason for another release of the haXe(flash) version unless and until we have a better idea on where the new game play is headed.
I have improved the random daily joker award - hopefully - won't occur soooo often.
Have fiddled with the image resizing issue by simply not trying to resize any of the girl's images - which of course is simply a cop out - stop gap - until I decide to really deal with the issue...
not sure it is worth uploading anything since the above two things are not all that major in improving things.
I have improved the random daily joker award - hopefully - won't occur soooo often.
Have fiddled with the image resizing issue by simply not trying to resize any of the girl's images - which of course is simply a cop out - stop gap - until I decide to really deal with the issue...
not sure it is worth uploading anything since the above two things are not all that major in improving things.
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Re: 2010.01.18
well i was hoping that it would hope fully increase activity acround here since it is practally dead, like the other board where shining just left.
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Re: 2010.01.18
I just found the first sim brothel a couples weeks ago was pretty addictive. I was just wondering what is the better downloads for this one atm? I wasn't sure which download to grab between the topics. And everything I found on brothel 2 seems kind of old, so was just curious on what a good download atm is and maybe more about when Sim brothel 2 will be complete.
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Re: 2010.01.18
this is a flash version and so its very different from the c# one krael is working on, this one only has a few differences in that you can set up the mode as you want (start with non joker girl of your choice, starting money game length ect.) and a few take a walk scenarios.
while the c# has not really changed much.
while the c# has not really changed much.
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hey fred u derf, i know your busy and not planning another release of haxe for a while, but would it be ok to post the links to the haxe on the whore master form? since it is not really known out side of this small form, of course all credit goes to you, however i will avoid posting the link to this form.
and they only have karells last release on there, and this might be better since this is flash, more options and mac compatable.
oh, and i duno about others but googling fred u derf, or alasdair69, give links to us on the first 5 results. but other usernames dont. (howeve fred derf and alasdair do not)
and apperently www.icrawl.org has us on it. (duno if this is common knowledge or not)
http://www.icrawl.org/816173450-2010-01-18
and they only have karells last release on there, and this might be better since this is flash, more options and mac compatable.
oh, and i duno about others but googling fred u derf, or alasdair69, give links to us on the first 5 results. but other usernames dont. (howeve fred derf and alasdair do not)
and apperently www.icrawl.org has us on it. (duno if this is common knowledge or not)
http://www.icrawl.org/816173450-2010-01-18
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Joshua wrote:hey fred u derf, i know your busy and not planning another release of haxe for a while, but would it be ok to post the links to the haxe on the whore master form? since it is not really known out side of this small form, of course all credit goes to you, however i will avoid posting the link to this form.
I have no problem with you posting a link anywhere. Where is this "whore master form", is it worth looking at?
and actually I am not really all that busy at the moment (things slow down for me as the summer approaches). mostly just waiting for the story-line details to be posted.
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http://pinkpetal.co.cc/index.php
its main thing is the 'whore master' game, which is a spin off (but unrelated to) simbro, basically you're like the mobs son, you dad dies now your in charge, are you good? or evil? (enslaving people and theft kidnaping, ect.) and then the so far limited story is, you can watch other gangs kill each other as you run your brothel, or hire gangs to take the others out.
the game is too easy at this point, as you basically click next and watch cash roll in, however the game is editable, so people make their own custom girls and add them to the game.
i mainly watch every once in a while, since they have a 'other games thread' were some interesting games may or may not be posted, (i got rance off of there) and they posted about the slave maker 3,which seems to be doing good. a guy tryed to remake hentai high, but theres two groups, one keep the tradition format, and is on that form (no updates so far) and the other group which have redone the game top to bottom.
link to the topic which has other games, http://pinkpetal.co.cc/index.php?topic=332.0
hmm seems as though medifire deleted it, will need to try to redownlaod. or upload. oh and i forgot we cant save yet.
its main thing is the 'whore master' game, which is a spin off (but unrelated to) simbro, basically you're like the mobs son, you dad dies now your in charge, are you good? or evil? (enslaving people and theft kidnaping, ect.) and then the so far limited story is, you can watch other gangs kill each other as you run your brothel, or hire gangs to take the others out.
the game is too easy at this point, as you basically click next and watch cash roll in, however the game is editable, so people make their own custom girls and add them to the game.
i mainly watch every once in a while, since they have a 'other games thread' were some interesting games may or may not be posted, (i got rance off of there) and they posted about the slave maker 3,which seems to be doing good. a guy tryed to remake hentai high, but theres two groups, one keep the tradition format, and is on that form (no updates so far) and the other group which have redone the game top to bottom.
link to the topic which has other games, http://pinkpetal.co.cc/index.php?topic=332.0
hmm seems as though medifire deleted it, will need to try to redownlaod. or upload. oh and i forgot we cant save yet.
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