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Post  Vava on December 8th 2010, 8:43 pm

alasdair69 wrote:*sigh* And you were doing so well, too. Rolling Eyes If you'll cast your eyes up a bit you'll see that I just added all three of those girls straight to the Yellow section because they were included in the custom game I found. Not that I'd mind having more pics of them to choose from but 'Aren't Even On The Lists'? Not so much.

*looks up* ... *facepalm*

Why I am so blind? You keep managing to slip girls past me, somehow.

Well then, I'd be lying if I said those three were not on the list, so in that case... *looks through lists, again* ... swapping them out for:

Mahou Shoujo Ai: Megu Kagano
Sakura Wars: Ci Caprice, Mell Raison

Okay, I am pretty sure none of those girls are on the list. I'm also aware that there may potentially be quite a few girls in Sakura Wars that could be included, but, for now, I'll include the two mentioned in this package (I'll just throw the others in the next one). I'll eventually get to the girls in Yellow, but I'd like to make sure the girls in Blue are done, first. While I'm at it, I guess I'll also see what I can find on Beatrix, Garnet, Quistis, Selphie, Shiva, and Paine while picking up any new pictures of the other FF girls I had previously provided pics for. Need to be thorough, after all. >.>

alasdair69 wrote:Which is precisely the point. According to Wikipedia:

Following the broadcast of Imaishi's previous project, Gurren Lagann, the show's staff went on a trip for rest and relaxation. At that time, they aired their opinions to each other under drunken and humorous circumstances, saying such things as "Next time, I want to try this" in regards to approaches to animation. Almost all of the concept for the anime was made during the initial trip; the names of main characters, 'Panty' and 'Stocking' were coined at the very first meeting. The theme of the anime is 'vulgar and indecent jokes', with Imaishi saying, "If we are going to do this, we will try it thoroughly."

And thorough it is. Very thorough.

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Post  alasdair69 on December 8th 2010, 9:58 pm

Vava wrote:*looks up* ... *facepalm*

Why I am so blind?
Well, you DO spend an awful lot of time looking for porn. Wink

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Post  Loup Garou on December 8th 2010, 11:44 pm

It's not LOOKING for porn that makes you blind..... It's what you do with it when you find it.

8-)

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Post  Joshua on December 8th 2010, 11:57 pm

Vava wrote:
I started watching Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt last Saturday. ... I'm not sure how to describe what I witnessed, but I find it way too ridiculous for it to cause me to wretch at the material they use. <.<

weird but i started watching last saturday as well interesting series to say the leaset, sorry but im kinda usless right now finals and all.

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Post  greatwhite on December 9th 2010, 2:22 am


weird but i started watching last saturday as well interesting series to say the leaset, sorry but im kinda usless right now finals and all.[/quote]

same here

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Post  Vava on December 9th 2010, 2:06 pm

Loup Garou wrote:It's not LOOKING for porn that makes you blind..... It's what you do with it when you find it.

8-)

Which I'm not doing every time I find something. Seriously, I wouldn't be able to get anything done. :/

greatwhite wrote:
Joshua wrote:weird but i started watching last saturday as well interesting series to say the leaset, sorry but im kinda usless right now finals and all.

same here

Did a whole bunch of people just decide to watch Panty & Stocking on the fourth and fifth of December, 2010 or something? That seems kinda strange... Probably some psychological aspect to that...

Also, GOD DAMMIT! If you could take every picture of Tifa Lockhart that could be used in this game but won't be use and turned it into a usable picture for some other girl, we'd be able to include 50+ girls who'd otherwise have little to no material and not be able to make it into the game!

... *sigh* Now I almost wish we had some sort of magical program like that. :<

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Post  Joshua on December 9th 2010, 3:57 pm

Vava wrote:
Did a whole bunch of people just decide to watch Panty & Stocking on the fourth and fifth of December, 2010 or something? That seems kinda strange... Probably some psychological aspect to that...

Yea... well i was looking at a specific artists (sayori) pics ran into stocking, i was like that hair is AWSOME, wish i could do something like that. (though as a guy i dont have nearly as much hair.) then looked at the series put it in google and bam, very different from the pic i originaly looked at. http://img4.gelbooru.com//images/808/3f152056d01b095250d073a68161e34d.jpg

and also after looking at her tags i discovered i like gothic loli style clothes, though i perfer the term elegent more. (not just gothic loli.) i like sayori's art she even made her own original cat girls xD.

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Also, GOD DAMMIT! If you could take every picture of Tifa Lockhart that could be used in this game but won't be use and turned it into a usable picture for some other girl, we'd be able to include 50+ girls who'd otherwise have little to no material and not be able to make it into the game!
... *sigh* Now I almost wish we had some sort of magical program like that. :<

i know right? including all the blonds, red heads, and everything else with the other people who have millions of pics.

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Post  Vava on December 9th 2010, 7:00 pm

Joshua wrote:Yea... well i was looking at a specific artists (sayori) pics ran into stocking, i was like that hair is AWSOME, wish i could do something like that. (though as a guy i dont have nearly as much hair.) then looked at the series put it in google and bam, very different from the pic i originaly looked at. http://img4.gelbooru.com//images/808/3f152056d01b095250d073a68161e34d.jpg

and also after looking at her tags i discovered i like gothic loli style clothes, though i perfer the term elegent more. (not just gothic loli.) i like sayori's art she even made her own original cat girls xD.

My case was somewhat similar. I kept seeing the tag "Panty and Stocking" on Pixiv, and the goth girl (Stocking, as it were. I, too, possess an attraction to the goth lolita look.) kept reappearing until I finally decided to see what "Panty and Stocking" was, if anything. Wiki pulled up the article, I took a look at it, then did nothing for a few weeks. Finally, I was sitting around at a friend's house in the middle of the night and just decided to pull it up so he, my brother and myself could all start watching it, together.

As an unneccessary update on my progress, I have now gone through all the CG/image sets on g.e (more or less, anyway; I didn't want to bother with random sets or sets that specifically said Tifa >: ( ). Anyway, break time for a few hours, then I've got to go through Pixiv and the Boorus and I'm done with FF searching.

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Post  Vava on December 11th 2010, 1:47 pm

<.< >.>

Double-posting, I guess.

I think the Dragon Quest image package had my hopes up for my future searches. The search for Ore no Imouto *etc* and Please Twins! girls left me feeling unsatisfied with what I could find, and I could barely find anything on Ci or Mell from Sakura Wars. I'm certain that there are more pictures elsewhere on the net, but I'm trying to play it safe with my searches since I'm not using my own computer for this. I did manage to find enough pictures for a few of the other girls in Sakura Wars, though, including a nun-in-training who could also be a potential Catgirl. ... Oh, and I don't think I want to search for FF girls for a few months...

Anyway, I need to move on to the next package, right? Let's see...

Black List

BlazBlue: Makoto Nanaya
Excel Saga: Hyatt
Fire Emblem - Path of Radiance: Elincia Ridell Crimea
GeGeGe no Kitaro: Neko Musume
God Eater: Alisa Irinichina Amiera
Guilty Gear X: Jam Kuradoberi
Lost Universe: Canal Vorfeed
Nurarihyon no Mago: Yuki-Onna/Tsurara Oikawa
Phantasy Star 02: Nei
Phantasy Star Universe: Maya Shidow

Blue List

Fire Emblem - Path of Radiance: Ilyana, Lucia, Marcia, Mia, Mist, Nephenee, Sanaki, Titania
Fire Emblem - Radiant Dawn: Micaiah
Fire Emblem - Sword of Flame: Farnia, Fiora, Florina, Lyndis, Ninian, Nino, Serra
Fire Emblem - Sword of Seals: Cecilia
Fire Emblem - The Sacred Stones: Amelia, Eirika, Marisa, Tana

Moving on to finish the Fire Emblem series, which shouldn't be as mind-numbingly repetetive as Final Fantasy was.

Not on the Lists

Fight Ipattsu! Juuden-Chan!: Plug Cryostat
Mahou Shoujo Ai: Ai Kagano
Sakura Wars: Erica Fontaine, Glycine Bleumer, Hanabi Kitaoji, Kanna Kirishima, Leni Michstraße, Maria Tachibana, Orihime Soletta, Sakura Shinguji, Sumire Kanzaki

Total: 42 girls

The great thing about this set of girls is that I've already got several of them put together (including every girl who isn't on the list), making this something of a lazy pack for me. :3 I don't think it will have spectacluar results, but I'll be able to manage something. Here's to a good hunt.

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Post  greatwhite on December 11th 2010, 3:05 pm

is there a way we could change the yellow list
like saying which girl actually need a head shot, putting HS beside their name
girls that need a full body shot FBS
and girs that need just dont have enough pics, JS (job shots)

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Post  Loup Garou on December 11th 2010, 3:39 pm

Damn near everyone needs a headshot... headshot is secondary. They are yellow because they don't have a good glamor shot... or enough good sex shots.

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Post  Joshua on December 11th 2010, 8:40 pm

on a side note, might i point out the fred has not loged on since november.

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Post  fred u derf on December 11th 2010, 9:20 pm

Joshua wrote:on a side note, might i point out the fred has not loged on since november.

why is that a problem? one does not have to log on in order to read the public messages....



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Post  Joshua on December 11th 2010, 11:30 pm

True i tend to do that same thing, however we lack your opinons.

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Post  greatwhite on December 11th 2010, 11:33 pm

Loup Garou wrote:Damn near everyone needs a headshot... headshot is secondary. They are yellow because they don't have a good glamor shot... or enough good sex shots.

but which ones need which

what im trying get at is if any need sex shots ill look for them
and the ones that need glamor shots (which i think is just a picture of them and nothing else right?) ill help for them too

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Post  Vava on December 12th 2010, 12:28 am

greatwhite wrote:
Loup Garou wrote:Damn near everyone needs a headshot... headshot is secondary. They are yellow because they don't have a good glamor shot... or enough good sex shots.

but which ones need which

what im trying get at is if any need sex shots ill look for them
and the ones that need glamor shots (which i think is just a picture of them and nothing else right?) ill help for them too

Lack of headshots and glamour shots aren't what's keeping the newer girls out of green.

alasdair69 wrote:The yellow girls are considered ‘works in progress’, after an exhaustive pic-mining expedition any one of them could be upgraded to green if we can find enough good pics or downgraded to red if we can’t. But given the already proven, nigh-godlike ability of this bunch to ferret out porn of even the most obscure characters ever conceived of, I think the odds are pretty good for most of them at least.

Basically, just saving three acceptable pictures when there are one-hundred-and-fifty (DAMN IT, TIFA!) readily available isn't going to cut it. Hell, even if you find every picture ever made in history that could be applied, that doesn't immediately put her into green, since more material can pop up from time to time. Al needs to go over whatever he's been given or has managed to come up with and sort it out before deciding whether a girl will be bumped up to green (or downgraded to red) after he's certain that everyone, including himself, has done their best to find what they could for whoever. Considering that it sounds like new girl suggestions keep popping up on the revival project and he needs to double-check their backgrounds to know if they're acceptable or fall into any special niches, it could be a while before we start seeing any more names bumped up. I'd like to see more names advance, myself, but, for now, I'm content with seeing more names being added to yellow, since it helps to increase the awareness of the new girls to the rest of the community.

Personally, I think we should hold off on the glamour and head shots until we know who's going to get into the game and focus on finding 'work' material and more girls for the time being. And brainstorming for game content. And maybe background info on the girls and setting.

... Oh, and, uh... another decent FF image set showed up on g.e, tonight, so expect a few additional pictures of a few of the girls in the next package, Al...

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Post  fred u derf on December 12th 2010, 12:38 am

Joshua wrote:True i tend to do that same thing, however we lack your opinons.

well i suspect any opinion i might express would be destructive and we probably do not need that at this time.

so i will try to remain silent until something actually relevant to developing the game appears on the forum.

note that gathering a large collection of imagery is useful but not really directly useful in developing a game (e.g. what will you do with your big pile of images in the end?)

sorry for being so negative......

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Post  alasdair69 on December 12th 2010, 10:08 am

greatwhite wrote:is there a way we could change the yellow list
like saying which girl actually need a head shot, putting HS beside their name
girls that need a full body shot FBS
and girs that need just dont have enough pics, JS (job shots)
Loup Garou wrote:Damn near everyone needs a headshot... headshot is secondary. They are yellow because they don't have a good glamor shot... or enough good sex shots.
greatwhite wrote:but which ones need which

what im trying get at is if any need sex shots ill look for them
and the ones that need glamor shots (which i think is just a picture of them and nothing else right?) ill help for them too
Hokay, I’m going to try this again. The only thing that can be taken as an absolute certainty with the girls in Yellow is that they each have at least one pic of some kind, everything else is completely up for grabs. Yes, some of them have enough good h-pics but not a good glamour shot. Yes, some have a good glamour shot but not enough (or even any) good h-pics. Others have only one or two pics of any kind or have a ton of pics that I haven’t taken the time to sort through yet. And there are even some that have enough acceptable pics of all sorts but I still want to scour the internet when I have the time just to make sure there aren’t any better ones out there. All Yellow really means is that the process of collecting pics for them has begun, it may have just begun, be near completion or be at literally any stage in-between. All of which explains why amending the list to show exactly what each girl needs wouldn’t really work. Not only would the very process of sorting through them to figure that out end up with several of them moved to other lists, the time and energy it would take me to go through over 200 girls would be much better spent right now on working on the game itself, which I haven’t really been able to do much of lately due to innumerable distractions. So basically for now just feel free to collect, post and/or send me any pics for any girls you think might be useful and once I’ve either hammered out more of the game model or desperately need a break from it for a little while I’ll sort through them all and determine which girls are acceptably ‘done’ and who else needs what else in order to be done themselves.

Vava wrote:Oh, and you still haven't clarified for me just what the current definitions of Fighter and MiLF are supposed to be...
Ummm … oops? Embarassed Fighter is easy enough, it’s the equivalent of the wrestlers, boxers, mixed martial artists, etc. of the real world, not just someone capable of fighting but those for whom it’s a profession or a way of life. It’s predominately applied to those girls whose original source material is primarily and/or exclusively about combat and those who participate in it, such as fighting games and anime/manga such as Ranma, Ikki Tousen and Dragonball, although there are occasional exceptions like Ku Fei from Negima who beats up the top members of the school’s various martial arts teams every morning before classes start. MILF is a little harder to explain, assigning that one is more an art than a science. Basically it’s the opposite of Lolita, for the guys who are attracted to older women (as Benny Hill once sang: “They don’t yell and they don’t tell and oh they’re grateful as hell, so give me an older woman every time.”). I know the whole ‘Mother’ part of it has thrown some people and I thought about changing it to Mature, but go to any porn site and search that and you’ll see why I decided not to (hint: hope you like octogenarians). Ultimately, it’s about age and experience rather than having children, as I hope the way I’ve got the description written shows: “MILF: Some women deteriorate as the years roll on, once beautiful faces weather and wrinkle and once toned bodies begin to sag, but others, like fine wines, just get better with age. The hallmarks of a MILF are a well-kept body and decades of experience in using it and they revel in the fact that men still consider them desirable. Actually being a mother is optional, although considered a bonus by some.”

Vava wrote:Basically, just saving three acceptable pictures when there are one-hundred-and-fifty (DAMN IT, TIFA!) readily available isn't going to cut it. Hell, even if you find every picture ever made in history that could be applied, that doesn't immediately put her into green, since more material can pop up from time to time. Al needs to go over whatever he's been given or has managed to come up with and sort it out before deciding whether a girl will be bumped up to green (or downgraded to red) after he's certain that everyone, including himself, has done their best to find what they could for whoever.
That’s almost right. As long as enough acceptable pics can be found a girl will be bumped up to Green, the real question is ‘when?’ The answer, of course, is ‘after I’ve picked the one glamour shot and three h-pics that are the best possible in all ways from everything that is available for that girl. You see, I want this game to be the best it can possibly be in every respect, including the choice of art; I don’t want to just snag the first acceptable images I come across (figuratively speaking, of course *snork*) and then later on stumble across one that’s ten times better than any I used that I didn’t know existed because I stopped looking. That’s why it takes so long for a girl to get upgraded, because even if you guys did find ‘every acceptable picture ever made in history that could be applied’ I’d still search through my own resources just to make sure and then have to go through all of those pics one by one to determine which ones fit the girl and the game most perfectly in order to winnow it down to the one glamour shot and three h-pics that would end up being used. This process, as you can no doubt imagine, takes a formidable amount of time, time which I’d rather use right now to work on the game itself. Occasionally I start to go cross-eyed from working on the game model and need a brief break from it, at which time I’ll typically try to finalize a few girls here and there or do some other incredibly OCD research pertaining to the game (yes, it may not look it to an outside observer but I really have pretty much ate, drank and slept SimBro for quite some time now; when I’m not working at my job I’m either working on the game model, doing research for the game model or the girls, spending exorbitant amounts of money on various anime collections to watch as research for the girls, etc.). But what everyone needs to realize is that until and unless I can get the game model finalized, even if we have ten thousand girls with all the pics assembled the best we’d be able to muster is v2 with a shitload ton of girls in it.

Vava wrote:Considering that it sounds like new girl suggestions keep popping up on the revival project and he needs to double-check their backgrounds to know if they're acceptable or fall into any special niches, it could be a while before we start seeing any more names bumped up. I'd like to see more names advance, myself, but, for now, I'm content with seeing more names being added to yellow, since it helps to increase the awareness of the new girls to the rest of the community.
Actually there hasn’t been a suggestion made over there in over two weeks, most of the girls that I have to ‘double-check their backgrounds to know if they're acceptable or fall into any special niches’ have been coming from you, mister ‘girls who aren't even on the lists’. *snork* Razz

Vava wrote:Personally, I think we should hold off on the glamour and head shots until we know who's going to get into the game and focus on finding 'work' material and more girls for the time being.
Well, having all the pics available for all the girls ahead of time would save some time and effort once everything else is done, especially since I want to include bios and images for girls that were considered but ultimately not included as unlockable content. However, since it all needs done eventually anyway whichever way you guys want to focus your attentions at the moment is perfectly fine with me. There is though one really good reason to hold off for at least a few days or so (I hope) on the glamour shots. I’ve been poking about the wiki and some of the art used is … how do I put this … less than optimal. I’ve been working on a little ‘Glamour Shots 101’ tutorial that should, I hope, give everyone some insight into what I look for in a good glamour shot and, by extension, the h-pics as well (since they need to match the glamour shot). With any luck at all (other than the bad kind I usually have), I should be ready to post it in the relatively near future.

Vava wrote:And brainstorming for game content.
I hope you have better luck with this than I’ve had, brother. I’ve lost track of how many times I’ve mentioned that since the game model is still in such an unfinished state there’s plenty of opportunity to add new ideas but no one ever seems to have any, or if they do they’re not sharing with the rest of the class. Now, I know it’s difficult to suggest possible additions to something when you don’t know what’s already there so, in lieu of a complete outline of the game model (which would defeat the whole ‘plenty of opportunity since it’s unfinished’ purpose anyway), I figured I’d point everyone to the extremely comprehensive list of suggestions that have already been made and that I’m using as a starting point for my own additions to the game mechanic, trying to incorporate as many of them as possible. That way, if nothing else, everyone can sound off on suggestions that have already been made by others or extrapolate from them and go in new directions. Said comprehensive list can be found in the first eight posts of the Suggestion Collection thread on the other forum, here: http://sim-brothel-v2.bigforumpro.com/miscellaneous-f7/suggestion-collection-t135.htm , and the only reason I didn’t link it a long time ago is that, in a massive brainfart moment, I thought I’d also posted it on this one waaaaaaaay back in the misty dawn of time but apparently somehow didn’t get around to it. So by all means check it out and maybe it’ll help get the creative juices flowing.

fred u derf wrote:note that gathering a large collection of imagery is useful but not really directly useful in developing a game (e.g. what will you do with your big pile of images in the end?)

sorry for being so negative......

-fud

Never apologize for stating the truth, my friend. For probably the first time, you and I are in complete agreement which, as I’ve stated, is why it’s going to be a while before any more girls are upgraded to the Green list: because as helpful as it is to have them ready, without a working game model to plug them into they don’t really do us very much good at all, do they?

Joshua wrote:on a side note, might i point out the fred has not loged on since november.
fred u derf wrote: why is that a problem? one does not have to log on in order to read the public messages....
Joshua wrote:True i tend to do that same thing, however we lack your opinons.
fred u derf wrote:well i suspect any opinion i might express would be destructive and we probably do not need that at this time.

so i will try to remain silent until something actually relevant to developing the game appears on the forum.
I think Joshua was mostly just worried that you might have abandoned ship, which to be honest I really couldn’t have blamed you for since I haven’t given you anything to do. I could apologize for taking so long until I’m blue in the face (and have, actually) but that won’t change the fact that it’s taking me forever and a day to accomplish anything, a fact that I’m painfully aware of and that must be causing you no end of frustration and probably a decreasing expectancy of ever seeing anything code-able. For what it’s worth (and I’m also painfully aware that it’s not worth much), it was never my intention to bring a programmer into the mix at this early stage of the game’s evolution; I know better than anyone just how much stuff I have to sort out and balance against each other and just how little time I really have to devote to doing so. Who knows how much longer it might be before I have anything ready for the 1s and 0s (I seriously had no idea how complicated a job I was taking on and will be the first to admit I have no clue what I’m doing and am ultimately making it up as I go) but by all means in the meantime please feel free to join the chaos and share any ideas for the game you might come up with. Admittedly, when you and I start debating something it rather quickly grows to resemble an argument between an old married couple but I positively loved your biorhythms idea (and fully intend to implement it) and actually have you to thank for kicking me out of my complacent paradigm vis-à-vis Themes. The way I see them working now is radically different from the way they were handled before and should prove both easier to implement and yet subtly more complicated to effectively manage. So if you have any other ideas I’d love to hear them. Maybe it’ll turn into another snark-fest, maybe it won’t, but even if it does just remember that even a wildfire clears the ground and enriches the soil for new growth.

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Re: Master List of Included and Suggested SimBrothel Girls

Post  Vava on December 12th 2010, 5:36 pm

alasdair69 wrote:Actually there hasn’t been a suggestion made over there in over two weeks, most of the girls that I have to ‘double-check their backgrounds to know if they're acceptable or fall into any special niches’ have been coming from you, mister ‘girls who aren't even on the lists’. *snork* Razz

Well... eh, you've got me there. I'm not exactly going into depth when researching the girls since I'm rushing myself to expand the list, and there are a lot of things I'm not fully aware of when I decide to mention a girl. Such as failing to notice she's already on the list. :S

alasdair69 wrote:That’s almost right. As long as enough acceptable pics can be found a girl will be bumped up to Green, the real question is ‘when?’ The answer, of course, is ‘after I’ve picked the one glamour shot and three h-pics that are the best possible in all ways from everything that is available for that girl.

Didn't I say that?

Vava wrote:...after he's certain that everyone, including himself, has done their best to find what they could for whoever.

Probably just didn't word it right... Curse the limitations of written communication. :/

alasdair69 wrote:Well, having all the pics available for all the girls ahead of time would save some time and effort once everything else is done, especially since I want to include bios and images for girls that were considered but ultimately not included as unlockable content. However, since it all needs done eventually anyway whichever way you guys want to focus your attentions at the moment is perfectly fine with me. There is though one really good reason to hold off for at least a few days or so (I hope) on the glamour shots. I’ve been poking about the wiki and some of the art used is … how do I put this … less than optimal. I’ve been working on a little ‘Glamour Shots 101’ tutorial that should, I hope, give everyone some insight into what I look for in a good glamour shot and, by extension, the h-pics as well (since they need to match the glamour shot). With any luck at all (other than the bad kind I usually have), I should be ready to post it in the relatively near future.

I was originally trying to include glamour shots and head shots, but I have a terrible sense of aesthetics and putting the effort into making the perfect glamour/head shots would be lost if the girl didn't have enough acceptable pictures, anyway (and vice versa >.>). This would also explain the majority of the images on the Wiki. And that I submit for your review... I would have prefered to use the glamour shots that we'd be using in the game for the Wiki, cropped to whatever the in-game dimension they would be placed at, but I'm not the guy with the pictures. Or, again, with the aesthetics to make/decide upon acceptable temporary pictures.

If you feel like sending me the glamour shots, I'd be more than willing replace the images that are currently on the Wiki. If that's a bit of a hassle, right now... I dunno, that can always be dealt with, later, I guess...

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Vava wrote:And brainstorming for game content.
I hope you have better luck with this than I’ve had, brother.

Actually... I haven't. I was mentioning that it was one of the things we could also be doing for the time being. I find it really hard to concentrate on anything with my drama-fag of a father causing some kind of emotional rattling every so many days (it gets especially worse around Christmas). But enough about that; there's stuff that needs to get done.

Anyway, thanks for clarifying Fighter and MiLF for me. Originally, I was under the impression that Fighter was synonymous with the word 'warrior,' and that it described girls who lived martially physical lives; swords for hire or something like that. It took me 'till the Dragon Quest searching to consider that it could have been referring to 'professional fighters' specifically. :/ As for MiLF, I was fairly certain it was referring to a maturity aspect as opposed to a maternal aspect, but I wanted to be sure so that I can save myself one or two personal embarrassments down the road.

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Post  Joshua on December 12th 2010, 6:49 pm

I honestly never saw that thread for the suggestions, looks like i have a lot to read, off the first paragraph we have allready completed sandbox mode in the hax flash bro.

endings, i honestly cant remember having any endings, im guessing i never sat through all 300 days befor. (or i just quickly went past it and forgot.)

as for how much the girls 'cost' each turn, i agree that slaves should cost less, however there is the fact she is a living breathing female, she has to eat sleep drink, get occasional hair cut, and whatever the mioya equivalent of birth controll is. free girls of course want a little more money to spend on girly stuff.

i dont think miyo has plastic surgons, a very rare occult bust enhancing potion maybe, (would also work in reverse could reduce bust size if wanted.)

i think lacy gothic dress should give elegence not lolita, (dose not make sense in my mind) what do you think vava?

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Post  alasdair69 on December 12th 2010, 7:36 pm

Vava wrote:Well... eh, you've got me there. I'm not exactly going into depth when researching the girls since I'm rushing myself to expand the list, and there are a lot of things I'm not fully aware of when I decide to mention a girl. Such as failing to notice she's already on the list. :S
No worries brother, getting as many potential girls as possible is something that needs done anyway and I can't (and don't) expect you to be aware of stuff I've never had a chance to tell you (the various research details on my personal Master List, that I use to categorize the girls and so forth, are something else that's on my 'make a tutorial' list). I just like giving you a hard time is all. LOL

Vava wrote:Didn't I say that? Probably just didn't word it right... Curse the limitations of written communication. :/
Eh, I was mostly just altering the emphasis slightly. My point was that there are a lot of girls on the Yellow list for whom it's a foregone conclusion they will be moved up to the Green list eventually, it's just a matter of me taking the time away from everything else I have to do to sort through the pics.

Vava wrote:I was originally trying to include glamour shots and head shots, but I have a terrible sense of aesthetics and putting the effort into making the perfect glamour/head shots would be lost if the girl didn't have enough acceptable pictures, anyway (and vice versa >.>). This would also explain the majority of the images on the Wiki. And that I submit for your review... I would have prefered to use the glamour shots that we'd be using in the game for the Wiki, cropped to whatever the in-game dimension they would be placed at, but I'm not the guy with the pictures. Or, again, with the aesthetics to make/decide upon acceptable temporary pictures.

If you feel like sending me the glamour shots, I'd be more than willing replace the images that are currently on the Wiki. If that's a bit of a hassle, right now... I dunno, that can always be dealt with, later, I guess...
You know, I wondered why nobody just asked me for the glamour shots I already had since my standards are by far more exacting than anyone else's (between being incredibly OCD, this being essentially my baby and me knowing far more about the requirements than anyone else, something my 'Glamour Shots 101' tutorial is designed to correct) and the Green girls, by definition, already have them.

Vava wrote:
alasdair69 wrote:
Vava wrote:And brainstorming for game content.
I hope you have better luck with this than I’ve had, brother.
Actually... I haven't. I was mentioning that it was one of the things we could also be doing for the time being. I find it really hard to concentrate on anything with my drama-fag of a father causing some kind of emotional rattling every so many days (it gets especially worse around Christmas). But enough about that; there's stuff that needs to get done.
What I meant was, I hope you have better luck rousing the troops to do so than I have. Don't get me wrong, if nobody has any ideas or feels like sharing them I've still got plenty to work with, as that Suggestion Collection should make obvious. But on several occasions I've mentioned that if anyone does have any ideas I'm keen to hear them and try to work them in and cussing and discussing additional content, Take A Walk scenarios, game mechanic alterations, girl and building accessory ideas, etc., etc. is a perfectly viable alternative to just spending all day surfing the net for porn. The response has been lackluster at best. Again though, I'm not trying to force anyone into it or anything, just make sure you guys know that you're are all valued parts of the design team and if you do have opinions, suggestions or requests I'm more than willing to try to work with you to make them a reality.

Vava wrote:Anyway, thanks for clarifying Fighter and MiLF for me. Originally, I was under the impression that Fighter was synonymous with the word 'warrior,' and that it described girls who lived martially physical lives; swords for hire or something like that. It took me 'till the Dragon Quest searching to consider that it could have been referring to 'professional fighters' specifically. :/ As for MiLF, I was fairly certain it was referring to a maturity aspect as opposed to a maternal aspect, but I wanted to be sure so that I can save myself one or two personal embarrassments down the road.
All part of the service brother, no biggie.

Joshua wrote:I honestly never saw that thread for the suggestions, looks like i have a lot to read, off the first paragraph we have allready completed sandbox mode in the hax flash bro.
Yah, I know, bear in mind that list was posted over a year ago and three months before Fred posted his first hax version so there are probably quite a few things on it that have already been addressed in one way or another. As for my particular game model though, at last tally I think there were like maybe six or seven suggestions on that list that don't look like they're going to make it in (usually because they're mutually exclusive with another one), although a lot of them are in heavily altered form to work with everything else. However, the vast majority of that exists solely as a few disjointed notes and some ideas burbling about in the cesspool of my brain so they haven't been codified and finalized yet. Which means that A) some might still prove to be unworkable and B) there's still plenty of opportunity to tweak them so as to work with other ideas and who knows, someone here might have an idea that gives me the spark of inspiration needed to make something work that I'd thought was a lost cause.

Joshua wrote:endings, i honestly cant remember having any endings, im guessing i never sat through all 300 days befor. (or i just quickly went past it and forgot.)
They're easy to miss, essentially just being one screen with a brief paragraph of text.

Joshua wrote:as for how much the girls 'cost' each turn, i agree that slaves should cost less, however there is the fact she is a living breathing female, she has to eat sleep drink, get occasional hair cut, and whatever the mioya equivalent of birth controll is. free girls of course want a little more money to spend on girly stuff.
Actually, both the upkeep costs and the 'girly stuff' are going to be addressed in my game model, although the exact form in which it's done is still a bit nebulous and therefor ideas and suggestions are always welcomed.

Joshua wrote:i dont think miyo has plastic surgons, a very rare occult bust enhancing potion maybe, (would also work in reverse could reduce bust size if wanted.)
Yah, some of the suggestions were of ... dubious sanity workability, I'll admit, but I collated them all anyway just so I and everyone else could know what people wanted to see in the game. It's funny you should mention that particular one though, as I actually did find a way to work it in. Remember me saying at one point that there were a few girls I'd wanted to include but couldn't find pics for so they became NPCs that could help you or your girls out in various ways? Meet Fran Madaraki. Twisted Evil



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Post  Vava on December 12th 2010, 10:19 pm

alasdair69 wrote:You know, I wondered why nobody just asked me for the glamour shots I already had since my standards are by far more exacting than anyone else's (between being incredibly OCD, this being essentially my baby and me knowing far more about the requirements than anyone else, something my 'Glamour Shots 101' tutorial is designed to correct) and the Green girls, by definition, already have them.

It just never occurred to me to pester you at that time. >.>

Vava wrote:Moving on to finish the Fire Emblem series, which shouldn't be as mind-numbingly repetetive as Final Fantasy was.

... Why did I say this? Oh, that's right, I had forgotten how similar so many of the Fire Emblem girls are relative to one another's physical appearance.

So, first I was like: "Let's go check out g.e since that's my pattern!" Then I was like: "But, wait! I can't tell them apart very easily. Let's check Gelbooru, first!" And then I was like: "FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU...!"

It was bad enough not being able to tell Eirika, Tana and Mia apart by a glance (especially when nude), but now I've got to tell them apart from Sheeda, Lilina and Isadora! Then there's Ishtar and Tiltyu, Tate and Thany, Karin and Mist... The list of names just keeps getting bigger! And all I can seem to find are pictures of girls who never made it outside of Japan! Within less than half-an-hour, the list has already started expanding to include:

Fire Emblem - Fuuin no Tsurugi (Sword of Seals): Idoun, Igrene, Lilina, Sue, Tate, Thany
Fire Emblem - Hasha no Tsurugi: Jemmie, Tiena
Fire Emblem - Monshou no Nazo: Catria/Katua/Kachua, Sheema/Shiima/Sheeda?
Fire Emblem - Path of Radiance: Jill
Fire Emblem - Rekka no Ken (Blazing Sword): Isadora
Fire Emblem - Seisen no Keifu (Genealogy of the Holy War): Fee, Ishtar, Tiltyu, Yuria

Granted quite a few of those girls only have one or two pictures so far, but a few of them seem to have enough to bring about the question of their in-game validity. Let's not forget that there are twelve games and each game has at least thirty or so characters in them!

*sigh* Oh, well. It has to be done, eventually, and I did say that's what I'd work on, next. I just didn't think I'd find a series that would give me so much trouble so shortly after the FF mess. :/ Oh, and lastly...

alasdair69 wrote:Meet Fran Madaraki. Twisted Evil

... Care to elaborate?

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Post  alasdair69 on December 13th 2010, 4:25 am

Vava wrote:So, first I was like: "Let's go check out g.e since that's my pattern!" Then I was like: "But, wait! I can't tell them apart very easily. Let's check Gelbooru, first!" And then I was like: "FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU...!"
Welcome to my world, except in my case it's more about trying to figure out how various series in the same continuities are related and how much time separates them so I can determine characters' ages. Dragonball especially just about made my head explode and I finally decided to not torture myself with Gundam and Super Robot Wars, when I have a question about those two I'll ask an expert. *nods*

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alasdair69 wrote:Meet Fran Madaraki. Twisted Evil

... Care to elaborate?
Not sure exactly what you want me to elaborate on here, who Fran Madaraki is or what her role in the game is going to be, but she's the main character of the comedy/horror manga Franken Fran, described as "a patched up synthetic beauty with an expertise in anatomical remodeling technologies". I originally wanted to include her in the regular girl lists, partly because she's cute and partly because we need more Monsters, but at the time there were no h-pics of her to be found (now I think there might be one usable one out there) so that was out. But when I started doing some preliminary work for the training aspect of the game and came to the suggestion about plastic surgery I figured she'd be perfect for the job and in a fit of gallows humor I threw it in. In the manga she's a brilliant, albeit highly unorthodox, surgeon (occasionally attaching extra arms to work faster or having her body perform an operation while her head watches from across the room, for example) but has no real concept of morality other than her refusal to take a life or let someone die in front of her if she can save them (even if it means turning them into a giant insect, sticking their head on a dog's body or whatever), and in the game she can perform boob-jobs and facelifts (giving the Buxom or Lolita Types). I know it's somewhat out of line with the general tech level of the game but it's funny and as a partial defence I should point out that Hanaoka Seishu actually performed breast cancer surgery under full anesthetic in 1804 and Frankenstein (the natural extreme of the 'Gilligans Island/steampunk/alchemical' type of technology that I'm shooting for and which Franken Fran is heavily based on) was written and set in 1818. So it would certainly be something extraordinary in a 'mad scientist' sort of way but not necessarily absolutely impossible.

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Post  Vava on December 13th 2010, 2:07 pm

alasdair69 wrote:Welcome to my world, except in my case it's more about trying to figure out how various series in the same continuities are related and how much time separates them so I can determine characters' ages. Dragonball especially just about made my head explode and I finally decided to not torture myself with Gundam and Super Robot Wars, when I have a question about those two I'll ask an expert. *nods*

I think I'll give an example of just how similar some of the girls are to each other:

http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Catria
http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Thite
http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Thany

Thany is of course the easiest to differentiate from the three (assuming they're nude, which seems to be the case in most pictures) since her hair is shorter, but even a feature as simple as that can simply be the result of just how the particular likes to draw a girl (Stocking is not flat-chested *citing an example seen on Pixiv, today*). After thinking about this issue, I've decided that it would just be easier to keep saving pictures and then focus them on to whichever girl I think deserves the shot. In the case of these three, I'm voting on Catria since she originates from the first game and people like to partner her up with Palla and Est (her sisters). But, then again, I haven't been finding much of Est, or even that many Team Player pictures...

alasdair69 wrote:Not sure exactly what you want me to elaborate on here, who Fran Madaraki is or what her role in the game is going to be, but she's the main character of the comedy/horror manga Franken Fran, described as "a patched up synthetic beauty with an expertise in anatomical remodeling technologies". I originally wanted to include her in the regular girl lists, partly because she's cute and partly because we need more Monsters, but at the time there were no h-pics of her to be found (now I think there might be one usable one out there) so that was out. But when I started doing some preliminary work for the training aspect of the game and came to the suggestion about plastic surgery I figured she'd be perfect for the job and in a fit of gallows humor I threw it in. In the manga she's a brilliant, albeit highly unorthodox, surgeon (occasionally attaching extra arms to work faster or having her body perform an operation while her head watches from across the room, for example) but has no real concept of morality other than her refusal to take a life or let someone die in front of her if she can save them (even if it means turning them into a giant insect, sticking their head on a dog's body or whatever), and in the game she can perform boob-jobs and facelifts (giving the Buxom or Lolita Types). I know it's somewhat out of line with the general tech level of the game but it's funny and as a partial defence I should point out that Hanaoka Seishu actually performed breast cancer surgery under full anesthetic in 1804 and Frankenstein (the natural extreme of the 'Gilligans Island/steampunk/alchemical' type of technology that I'm shooting for and which Franken Fran is heavily based on) was written and set in 1818. So it would certainly be something extraordinary in a 'mad scientist' sort of way but not necessarily absolutely impossible.

That was exactly what I needed to know. For some reason, I was imagining that you had something potentially traumatizing in store for FF12's Fran... Also, I'm questioning how exactly a character could suddenly acquire the Lolita type when she's already considered a MiLF. The same goes for altering bust sizes, since it wouldn't really make that much sense when you see their work pictures or glamour shots. Well... unless if we do what the people updating SlaveMaker have done, and alter the images to make the changes more apparent. I dunno, my initial impression is that it sounds kinda messy, and not just in the bodily fluid way...

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Post  alasdair69 on December 13th 2010, 3:51 pm

Vava wrote:That was exactly what I needed to know. For some reason, I was imagining that you had something potentially traumatizing in store for FF12's Fran...
Yeah, in retrospect I can see how someone unfamiliar with the character might get that impression. Imagine how much stronger it would have been if I'd just said 'Franken Fran' instead of using her whole name. affraid

Vava wrote:Also, I'm questioning how exactly a character could suddenly acquire the Lolita type when she's already considered a MiLF. The same goes for altering bust sizes, since it wouldn't really make that much sense when you see their work pictures or glamour shots. Well... unless if we do what the people updating SlaveMaker have done, and alter the images to make the changes more apparent. I dunno, my initial impression is that it sounds kinda messy, and not just in the bodily fluid way...
You are, of course, correct on all counts and those are exactly the sorts of things I need to work out if that particular form of girl enhancement is going to prove viable. I first came up with the idea soon after I got started on the game model, long before things like the Type system and MILFs were ever included, but that one's easy enough to fix: if someone has the MILF Type she can remove it (I can actually imagine certain cases where that might be desirable) and if they don't she can give them Lolita. The image issue is one I knew from the beginning I'd need to address in some fashion at some point but to be honest I haven't put too much thought into it yet, figuring I'd get to it when I started working on the training/enhancement mechanic in earnest and if a good solution can't be found then I'll simply not include the plastic surgery option, it wouldn't exactly be the end of the world. But it's funny, it would enable the inclusion of a cool character and offer another avenue for developing and personalizing your girls so I'd like to be able to keep it if possible. I'm sure between us we can probably come up with half a dozen different ways to make it work.

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